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A message to all anfoos.
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>>5259
>Kiki
Typically akimbo MAC-10s but her favorite is M202 FLASH when she gets the chance to use it
>Grace
M249 or any machine gun really
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>M202 FLASH
A true American arsonist, but she better take care when playing with fire.
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>>5261
>nu 'pickle
i hope their computer got fixed
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>M202
Long ago it seems to me that I heard a story, perhaps fictional, perhaps not, of some individual who took the disposable four-shot launchers and very carefully loaded them with the 66mm HEAT rockets out of four M72 LAWs.  It was something about a perceived need to have something along to deal with multiple concrete bunkers, something that had more BOOM than a 40mm grenade launcher.

The story sounds crazy but I remember reading that in A'stan about twenty years back some of the guys in Ranger units who had to deal with Taliban in bunkers and fortified cave complexes were short on tools suited to this specialized task. They demanded, and, eventually, got, ancient M67 90mm recoilless rifles, supposedly pulled from deep storage in National Guard armories in Alaska.  When they were in service, circa 1965, they were principally issued with 90mm HEAT ammo, and intended for use as a platoon-level antiarmor asset, but there were also HE-FRAG and antipersonnel flechette rounds available for it.  A 90mm HE round is a very uncomfortable thing to have inside a concrete bunker with you, or so I've heard.

But here.  Intelligence has obtained this image of the latest known armored annoyance.
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>>5263
love that picrel so much, anon
drawing tanks (or any vehicle) is an achievement in of itself
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>>5263
this is a really cool doodle anon!
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>>5264
It is a shameful admission, but the vehicle itself is mostly traced.  The background isn't, rudimentary though it is, and it was challenging to draw such a tiny pixel-art Averi hanging out of the commander's hatch.

The Internet insists that it's real, but the details vary a lot. Supposedly it's in some city in Italy, which one varies with who's telling the story.  It is, supposedly, the world's smallest war memorial, being made from the commander's cupola of either an M48 (1950-60s) or an M60 (1960s-70s) tank, plus a couple of road wheels and a short length of track.

>>5265
You flatter me, good sir.
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>>5266
the doodle is still really good doe
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>>5267
Thanks.  It was harder than I thought to find images of a 1970s US Army tank crew helmet from a few different angles, and to find sample-able images giving some idea of 1970s-era US military olive drab paint.  

I take my fox doodles entirely too seriously, I think.
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>>5268
Were you always really into military stuff, by any chance?
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It's one of my interests.  There's a lot of weird stuff going on in my head.  Fox girls in tonks is the least of it.

I found this one after searching a bit.  ("You shouldn't put orcas in tanks! It's terrible! and inhumane!" "No actually this is awesome! WEEEEE")
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>>5270
LEOPARD DETECTED (i think?)
confedential documents leaked at the 'foo
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>>5271
Type 10 nyagga
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>>5272
>Type 10 nyagga
10
>>5270
Have you watched Gup?
>>5242
Three months in and I still don’t get the message
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>>5275
The message is  👌   got 'em  .
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its been taking forever sadly. regret being stubborn, should have sent it to someone less busy.
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 i was supposed to recieve news on its repair but he didn't call..... :(
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in other news, im finally healed of my absolutely horrid eternal artblock! im normal again, only the tiniest vestiges left, but those are going away.

the solution was i had to stop doing things automatically, and focus on being in the zone.

also i would wait until i had an idea before starting. (lots of staring at a blanc page.) usually I'd start first and get the idea later, which used to work, but didnt anymore. if i do it this way, i don't start without focus.
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>>5279
happy that things are getting better for you, anon!
love the art as always
>>5278
happy to hear you are making progress! I really like your art and guides you made helped me a lot to learn
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i have.... a really long post i wanna make im still writing giving an account of what happened, some concepts, and some ideas i learned. its huge.

also im gonna start practicing darker lines.
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>>5282
Looking forward to reading spine tingling kino
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still no computer.......... my long weekend wasted :(
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>>5284
uhhhh is drawing traditinally rlllly good.
i hear advice about how you should draw on paper when starting out.
but i can just draw sans undertale because i would hangmyself if anyone saw my art
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this post is 16000 characters long. i actually ran out of space and will have to split it in 2 if i wanna say the last bit.... i uhh, really outdid myself this time. in this short novel, i define some concepts, give an account of all the nonsense ive been dealing with, and tell some my art discoveries and new theories.


if you're an artist, you won't be any good unless you can get into the zone. i have always constantly been in a battle ever since i was little, trying to get myself into a good mindset while drawing. personally i never called it the zone, to me it was more like seeing in a way i normally wouldn't, so i had to "see it". so i remind myself to get into a good mindset by my old adage... "I have to see it." 

heres an example: if i had artblock, I'd spend a bunch of time struggling frustratingly drawing blindly, but eventually by the end of a few hours drawing, id start to see it again. I'd just... see things about my drawing a lot better, like, i see a more sophisticated level of detail about my art than befure, and i see all sorts of cool things i can do to it, and stuff that i like is more appearant to me. this is a very real mindset shift, that causes me to do things more excellently. it even affects me fur many days after. 

I'll focus because ill see cool things i could do, so i pursue. drawing is like chasing a flavor, molding the shape until it tastes tasty, to that high level i see. you watch yourself capture the right look and get excited as you know its gonna come out good, cuz it always does when you're in a good mindset. 

When I make a mistake, i notice it very well and fix it, because I'm pursuing and want quality (i can see what i want, this isn't good enough), but also because i more overtly see the mistake, and just... care more, because i know id be ruining a good drawing. if it was normal, and not in good mindset, id continue with the mistake without thinking, cuz i just don't care as much. 

normally i don't see it, im not in a good mindset. I'm more clumsy and aimless, i just doodle thoughtless drawings, which are usually bad. i call this "drawing blind", its what ive always called it, so i often tell myself, "don't draw blind, you have to see it." over and over again, you'd see it in my notes a lot. im saying, "you can't just draw, you need to get into a good mindset first." this is my traditional advice I've had since a baby beginner. 

I focused on this a lot in the past, but when i started getting better and transfurming from a middling, heavy, ref-bot artist to a higher level of artist (light, comfy, memory based), something very wonderful happened. i found i no longer needed to "see it" to make a good drawing, they'd quite often come out good automatically (as in, even drawing blindly worked). my mindless doodles almost always looked good, and i was a LOT more consistent. it felt like i was on the cusp of perfection, just a little more and i wouldn't even need to be in a good mindset, I'd be perfectly consistent like one of the greats. no more fussing to try see it, or messing up cuz im not in a good mindset, there would be victory whether im in a good one or not. 

Drawing was painless, light, and felt rly good, it often magically worked out fur no reason, something that never used to happen.

then i had depression, which completely disoriented me. it killed my passion fur cute things, such that I physically felt all good feelings very little. i want to explain what this is like so you can understand: try tickling your palm with your finger, and after with the same finger, tickle the back of your hand. The palm side is much more sensitive than the back side, right? Now imagine everything you enjoy normally feels like the palm, lots of sensation. With depression, everything you like gets felt like the back of the hand, not much sensation or feeling at all, though you can still feel it a little bit nice. I laughed a lot when i was depressed, but i didn't feel much from laughing, so, i might as well have had hicups. as you might imagine, this makes living straight up pointless, because you barely feel anything good, only bad feelings, so whats the point of even living like that? This state lasts you many months to beyond a year, like a desert without water, and there are many other more minor symptoms that takes many years to slowly recover from, even after the major symptoms are gone, its a pretty serious matter that can kill you. theres lots of little things, like there is normally a subtle glow of light felt around your heart, you actually have this right now if you notice closely, but with depression it goes away. like... this is not a poetic statement, the light inside you literally dies haha. you get emotional, you get violent thoughts, you get petty, hurt easily, but it differs from person to person. Fur example, some lose emotions rather than becoming oversensitive.

Even after recovering feeling to normal, my passion fur cute still took a lot longer to recover, years, it was honestly the last symptom to fix, and its still not as strong as befure. but at least cute girls feel cute again.

Depression however is not at all excruciatingly bad, its mainly just no way to live. you're constantly wishing you were dead like you're wearing squidward's "i really wish i weren't here right now" button, as living like this really isn't worth it, but the level of suffering is actually totally endurable in any given day, and you really can just be happy again when you recover. imo its faster to recover than it is to resolve to die, so you are better off putting up with it. just protect yourself, take it seriously and you'll heal.

Depression comes from a broken spirit, and like a broken bone, it needs peace to heal. you have to stop getting hurt, because every hurt is like straining and putting weight on a broken bone. it means more days of depression fur you, so dont let it happen. This will work.

I often say this, but human beings have limits. regardless of how strong your resolve, its not up to you. don't be the fool that endures too much and gets depression, if too much bad stuff happens to you, you'll break. instead, you should try achieve your goals with minimal self sacrifice. I promise you, this is wisdom from heaven. it teaches humility and develops you graceful skill, and best of all, it actually works in practice. 

Those that settle fur the hard way never find the easy way, and stay mediocre furever. the one that ignores his limits, simply gets humbled, so don't be a fool. Embracing weakness does not mean accepting mediocrity, or giving up. it means you only have a little strength, so you have to use it wisely if you want to win. if you brute furce things, you'll just burn out and lose. Work hard means burn out, dont do it. it doesn't take much to reach the sustainable limit of your body, i know because ive reached the actual limit.

stop expecting to be able do things you never actually practiced. play to your strengths, and avoid your weaknesses. furget what others do, and do what works fur you in practice more than anything, and stop doing what doesn't work befure it wastes too much resources. Thats why i say, "the one who knows he is weak, is not so weak." and that "It is when you realize you are weak, that you become strong." its my favorite advice of all, its the sole spark that transfurmed me from mediocrity to something better, but no one ever takes it, or really seems to understand it. 

Depression made me realize mental states exist, because i was living in a different one, a new world where the rules are different. its kind of interesting. if i looked at something cute, id feel nothing, and not see the cute in it, though i rationally know its there, because it is a cute drawing, its just being bland to my tongue. 

This as you could imagine, is super disorienting, and made it really really hard to draw stuff thats appealing, like... how can i salt and spice, when i don't taste the salt and spice...? how am i supposed to make it appealing? I can't chase and mold towards something i can't even see. im basically just opperating on steriotypes and ideas that i know are "supposed to work", like some mechanoid alien trying to guess what humans like. that and experience. 

im also a person who's always relied heavily on his passion fur cute gorls too, so not having that is basically me straight up losing my reason to draw. but as you can tell, i kept drawing a ton.

i couldn't help but draw blind often. i could only really draw cute guys n dragon girls, which fur some reason worked, maybe because it was new and different to me at the time, but it isn't who i am, im a cute girls artist, it really bothered me to not be me. unlike most people you hear about i actually like myself, so becoming a different person, let alone a much worser different person is awful. At least the edgy vent art and sad poems was good. 

I also developed what i didnt know was nutritional issues closer to the tail end of the depression, which gave me brainfog and serious focusing issues, which was solved by eating potatoes again. (I guess growing up a picky eater wasn't such a bad thing after all?) This brainfog was an extreme lowpoint fur art as thats when automation completely took over, and i chronically and habitually would draw blind as the rule every time.

drawing became something horrible feeling. every drawing felt the same, i used the same patterns a lot over and over, and i would never have that thrill or chase or passion, on top of not even being able to use my brain properly to focus, i had the feeling i was clearly very different from the old me. just felt very disconnected from past focus. Eventually with many months, the last bits of passion loss from depression did fix more or less, but i still had brainfog. then many more months again, my brainfog fixed from potatoes, but even this didn't really fix me. even after all that recovery, it was as if i still had no focus, due to my new total blind drawing habit. I could never care about what I was drawing, it was just automatic and repetitive. i still couldn't focus or put thought into it, despite the heathy brain. its like i can't use the ability i know i have. being like this is very awful, the worst. 

then i saw my friend krattking very recently, his art looked the same as it did years ago, (very cute, with a certain ordinary charm that felt missing these days, from not only my art, but others too.) which was very inspiring, like something I'd lost and thought was gone, but he totally had it like nothing changed, felt old. we were friends that drew cute girls together at similar skill levels. i started using guidelines again trying to return to the past when i was like kratt, get back that feeling like the old way, (which was more fundamental-y, hence why i used guidelines) which surprisingly actually worked, and helped much with focus. 

The key was that the construction guidelines seemed to impart a certain figurine-like charm to it, and it just... helped me to focus. i think the reason i was focusing much more from this was because a guidelines method is different, so i couldn't do it automatically like normal, but it was also still familiar enough fur me to maintain interest. 

(note, i am a single minded person, I only care to draw cute girls/guys, if i drew "different fur the sake of different", to help me to focus, which i actually did consider, i know I'd completely lose interest, and it wouldnt work. Drawing different-yet-familiar stuff is pretty much the only way to actually, successfully get me to do something different. simply "draw different" just doesn't work in practice.)

i started getting back to basics, trying to see it again, and draw with love, which are both very traditional ways of thinking fur me. also studying more again, which i didn't actually do. i rarely study ever anymore, and didn't even once tbh. 

basically, whats going on now was, i didn't know the solution to focusing again, but unlike befure, i was in practice doing stuff that worked and physically put me to focus again, which was very important to getting out the mud pit. I felt I was really close to solving it. There was a problem though, i dont want to keep using guidelines as my solution, because as charming as it was, it is against my way as an artist, which is to reject guidelines. id hate to be furced to go back to using something that contradicts my principals, that'd be pretty lame. 

i also did different styles, like old hair shapes, was a liiiittle more creative, less repeatitive. the guidelines did make me realize my 3D shapes were legit slightly off, which im more conscious to fix, and i even found some use fur the good ol' proportion check, which ive been using surprisingly often. My retvrn to tradition ended up being a good quick refresher honestly. 

then a key moment happened, i had a bad feeling when beginning a drawing, like it wasn't going to work again. i always got that feeling throughout these days. but this time i noticed it, and decided to stop, thinking i should wait staring at the blank page until i physically felt right about drawing, maybe that would help. This led to me focusing befure actually starting the drawing, and then i could see it again. 

basically... the new fix was simply waiting fur an idea befure starting, seemed to work as a replacement fur the guidelines way, so i finally had a good practical method to getting to a good mindset, while using my regular method, no contradiction of principles required.

it was right after this, i kinda just... realized how things truly worked thinking about it, and the true solution to my problem, and a radical new way of thinking. 

it was automation (which is what drawing blindly really is; its simply doing things automatically without thinking or checking) that's what was killing me. i constantly kept doing things without thinking, and i needed to prevent this automatic action, so that i could see it again and do things with focus and intentionality. That the cusp of perfection i subconsciously wanted befure would be thrilless and terrible if i got it! perfection as an artist is to embrace chasing "seeing it", embrace dealing with the annoyance of trying to getting a good mindset, because getting one is where all the good things come from. Automation is without soul, repetitive and just not as special or cool as things made out of talent and focus. I think doing things automatically might even be the source of all artblock, which, big if true, cuz thats fixable. I guess we'll see.

my new idea and understanding is more radical than befure: not only do you not draw without seeing it, (ie, you dont draw blindly, you try get into a good mindset), but now you actively try to avoid doing anything automatically at all. ALL should be done intentionally, so as to benefit from the talent of seeing it, no acting automatically. 

The reasoning goes like this: the parts you draw when you "see it" tend to be of superior talent to the parts you produce automatically. 
Therefure, each part you de-automate, is another part fur "seeing it" to make awesome or a little cooler looking. 

Skillful produce is in a zero sum game against automated produce, as each thing automated means one less lever you're using to express skill and talent in.

by producing as few things as you can automatically, and trying to produce as much stuff as you can through seeing it, you'll maximize the potential quality of every aspect of your drawing, as every aspect that got de-automated, is a aspect that can be made in the zone, and thus way more awesomer. And! you also definitely won't draw blind like that, as blindness is just doing things automatically, which is directly what you are opposing, every step of the way.

being a new idea, i have not yet tested it extensively to see long run problems, or even how useful it would be to anyone not suffering from my unique circumstances, so grain of salt, but it'd be interesting to know if it helps you. possible potential problems being it might in theory be more mentally taxing, and its a little more annoying to setup, but its the new direction im headed in, and it has caused no issues so far. it seems to have the potential to fix my pose problems too, because its furcing me to be conscious about all the things id normally do automatically, like what pose or look to go fur befure even starting.  

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but then, just when you thought i was finally done typing... this lead to some other ideas...  

i predict that AI will lead to a sustained competency collapse. 

there is a pattern in war, in WW1, everyone thought increases in firepower would cause attack to be the most powerful, ww1 was the most defensive slog. it took years of failure to realize the reality. 

then everyone thought in ww2 it would be an attritional war again like ww1, but it was highly mobile warfare. Even in ukraine today, we thought it would be a futuristic high-tech war, but we got trench warfare where simple minefields somehow are the most op thing, with cheap bootlegged drones and cage armor/turtle tanks. it turnned out contrary to expectations, bootleg / low tech is dominating, not the sophisticated high tech stuff. 

by this same type of pattern: everyone thought ai was going to become a supercomputer that replaces all the jobs, but what will actually happen, is it will lead to people becoming incompetent, as no one is relying on or developing skills anymore, such that we regress as a society. as a matter of fact, the human machine right now is far more important to the economy than ai many times over, so even a small reduction in human skill is immediately far more devastating than ai gains. i predict countries who invest the most into ai will actually automate themselves into incompetency, they'll suffer from terrible human capital. 

We've seen AI has already destroyed culture and places of learning, and i think the rot will not heal until it is actively stopped. The nations that see through the pattern, that goes contrary to our current narrative, and legislate against ai and embrace traditional skill focus will regain its human capital, stop the bleeding, and succeed. 

Basically, i think humans being less skilled is a bigger problem than ai being less skilled, so human skill should get a tourniquet put over it, even if its kinda discouraging to ai developers, as this is straight up an emergency. 

...basically.. if i could be so presumptuous, i think the problem the world is having these days, is kinda similar to problem i had in art, and that the solution is... doing what I'm doing... :) 

(thats actually how i came up with the idea, in case you were wondering. i... made an association :D) 

so not only should the individual artist minimize automation/blind drawing but so should society, to maximize human skill, relying on as few static furmulas and automations as possible, which just blindly produce things people dont love or care about, at least fur matters of art, entertainment, and culture. 

(anything written beyond this point is pretty much extra.)

what im also suggesting is, art and culture might actually be something essentially luddite at its core. that there might be an actually real and fundamental argument against ai, and automation of the arts, that if you aren't somewhat luddite, art and culture will die proportionally to how much you abandon it to lazy automation, and nice things will only come back proportionatlely to the degree that you protect skill development. you actually don't just have to accept all culture getting ruined by ai slop "fur progress", because art properly understood is not really something that even technologically progresses. if anything artists easily go backwards in technology fur fun and charm.

heres a thought: one of the things the actual historic luddites destroyed was looms. but think about it, isnt most modern clothing pretty soulless or uninteresting? i bet if they kept hand making them, as impractical and expensive as that would be, aesthetically our clothing would probably be more charming, and the average person's fashion would be far superior to what we wear now. as in, my argument probably really is correct; because we accepted the automation of our clothing, the artistic level of our fashion is probably far behind the level it would be otherwise, and is far more soulless. like even the actual luddites had a real point, at least in the furm of defending an art, to preserve good fashion. this principal is probably real! 

and that maybe we as a society can value human skill again over automation, so we dont get another generation like gen alpha kids being retards and pretending to be dogs at school. They'll maybe be like normal competent again, because they'll actually learn a skill, like our cooler normaller furefathers had to. its getting to the point where i am genuinely afraid fur my future, and 28 is too young to be sounding like an old man yelling at the younger gens, its not normal how bad they are. (of course its not rly their fault. like they didn't get to call ppl nyagger in call of duty without getting banned, they didn't get to grow up normal with intact families, or grow up around normal people beliefs, or have zero restrictions on porn, that was imposed on them.) 

The way i see it, the reason older generations seem better and cooler is because of their artisanship born in their smaller world (and growing up with a non divorced dad), but we can do it too, 100x better, we are better competitors and athletes than any boomer was in his prime, because we are completing against the whole world with the internet, and can make much faster progress. we can win, even only if it is by standing on the shoulders of giants. its why everything was so awesome in the beginning of the internet, beyond the novelty, it had so much real skill, and people doing cool things fur free.

and uh, yeah, thats it. 2/2
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>>5287
after three months, I FINALLY get the message...
thank you professor pickle!
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oughhh finally done. i spent all day on it and finished it im freeeeee

>>5285
i recommend trad, simply because its nice to be able to switch mediums, its refreshing, and nothing ever feels as good and comfurtable as a pencil on paper. id agree with the advice, but its not important. 

digital feels rly awkward at first, you will feel like you made a mistake getting a tablet, but know thats normal. you get used to it in a few days. also smarter finacially, just in case drawing is not fur you, so you don't waste money on a tablet, just use spare paper.

tbh, the idea that an artist could skipped straight to digital feels insane to me, you should totally draw trad sketches sometimes its fun! but people skip it all the time and they turn out ok. my friend only draws with a mouse, he got a tablet and didn't like it. refuses to draw trad, stays with a mouse, i dont get it.

>>5288
:D
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its funny i probably spend more time writing than drawing
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>to me it was more like seeing in a way i normally wouldn't, so i had to "see it". so i remind myself to get into a good mindset by my old adage... "I have to see it." 

>normally i don't see it, im not in a good mindset. I'm more clumsy and aimless, i just doodle thoughtless drawings, which are usually bad. i call this "drawing blind", its what ive always called it, so i often tell myself, "don't draw blind, you have to see it." over and over again, you'd see it in my notes a lot. im saying, "you can't just draw, you need to get into a good mindset first." this is my traditional advice I've had since a baby beginner. 

>i found i no longer needed to "see it" to make a good drawing

this tis literally just this i read this book and it somethinglike this
intresting about automation in human affairs and expression being jewish
also this related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKwVFWwA_x8
i dont like how genuis gives song meanings or even claim it to be the case without artist confirmation or other refrence.
wwhenn what other reasonn i am listening to random words being said at certain freqeuncys besides the fact that it sounds good.
how do you become more versed at communicating more abstract ideas.
theres like 2 of them in the rooom but they seem to new to me to bring down.
metal gear solid refrence supplemental picrel.
uhh
kind of want to go on a tanget like this but is like 2 am fur me.
but yeah thanks fur letting me use my brain because i wouldnt be convinced otherwise. automation bad is a sentiment proably in alot of the idea play things i like to learn about and it would be funny fur that just go over my head (enneagram theory of persoanlity, robert monroe.)
youtube is mostly automated entertainment. oracleee of taste. like how its choosing the songs i listen to. then whatever freqeuncy and messages may be laiden there. until the collection of songs have the same effect on me like a cocktail of whatever.
being organized into other bubbles of similar intrests to a artifical animal magnetism to become whatever thing it wants me to be!


its hard to tell other artists on higher levels who seem to pop up like talking generative bubbles. i wonder if they go through the same amount of personal lessons to reach there skill. but no one will ever knoww. and since they wont care to say i wont care when they become old and die i guess.
(talking to the more cheap and timely artist like on der twitter uhh ifyky)
also metal gear solid
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>>5291
... ngl i can barely make out what you said.. but i got the gist of it.

 ill check out the book though, i wanna see how similar. honestly i should probably check all the famous ones.
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i have a computer again ;-;;;;;;;
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>>5285
>uhhhh is drawing traditinally rlllly good.
Erm, I think that trad drawing helps to build muscle memory faster that digital drawing but is kinda harder and more annoying to get used to. Still though, I recommend you to buy a sketchbook and fill it with silly drawings. Its a good way to track your progress and to manifest ideas.
>i would hangmyself if anyone saw my art
Kek, just keep the sketchbook close to you then, and hide it under your bed while you ain't using it. Also, even if someone finds it, most normies dont care/are too dumb to understand art. So dont be afraid fur what others may or may not think. 

>>5286
>if you're an artist, you won't be any good unless you can get into the zone
I agree, fur days I've been unable to get into the "zone" and due to this, my drawings have gotten noticeable worse overtime. 
>if i had artblock, I'd spend a bunch of time struggling frustratingly drawing blindly, but eventually by the end of a few hours drawing, id start to see it again.
Something similar is happening to me, i been trying to grind fur days, but i can't seem to find the light at the end of the tunnel, idk if it's artblock or I'm just going insane lol. 
>drawing is like chasing a flavor, molding the shape until it tastes tasty
Interesting analogy, I see drawing as planting a seed (having an idea), waiting fur the plant to grow (practicing and grinding) and then reaping what you sow (being able to manifest the idea). 
>if it was normal, and not in good mindset, id continue with the mistake without thinking, cuz i just don't care as much. 
>i just doodle thoughtless drawings, which are usually bad. i call this "drawing blind"
This behaviour has also plagued my mind recently, now the eraser seems rather optional and using it feels like a waste of time. I'll try to correct this mistake. 
>i had depression, which completely disoriented me. it killed my passion fur cute things, such that I physically felt all good feelings very little. 
I hope you are in a better state of mind now anon, sometimes we don't value the things we had until we lose them. i really miss being the guy I used to be a few weeks ago. 
>with depression it goes away. like... this is not a poetic statement, the light inside you literally dies haha.
Yeah, I can see that "lack of light" you describe in the hollow souless eyes starting back at me from the mirror.  
>Depression comes from a broken spirit, and like a broken bone, it needs peace to heal.
You are quite good at making metaphors anon, maybe rest is in fact the answer to my problems.
>Those that settle fur the hard way never find the easy way, and stay mediocre furever. 
>if you brute furce things, you'll just burn out and lose. 
Your words hurt but you are right, I always thought that "the hard way was the only way", and due to this I've experienced burnout with a lot of different hobbies befure.     
>stop expecting to be able do things you never actually practiced. 
This hits hard, I've always been the "jack of all trades, master of none" type guy, that knows a little bit about everything but is unable to master anything. Being a generalist is such a fluffing curse man. 
>mental states exist, because i was living in a different one, a new world where the rules are different. its kind of interesting. if i looked at something cute, id feel nothing
I started to notice i been in a different state of mind recently, suddenly i find myself wondering fur the meaning of even the smaller worthless things. I'm losing the ability to see the "big picture" and started to fixate on meaningless stuff all day, being unable to do anything productive with my time.
>i couldn't help but draw blind often. i could only really draw cute guys n dragon girls, which fur some reason worked,
The only thing I been able to draw decently these days have been some technical drawings fur an assigment. Also, if you dont mind could you post those drawings you are talkin about? No pressure though, if you dont want to there's no problem, but i would like to see how that "mechanical blindly drawing" looked like in your case, cause most my drawings been looking exacly like that lol.
>becoming a different person, let alone a much worser different person is awful. At least the edgy vent art and sad poems was good. 
Yeah, it's truly awful to feel altered or changed without any previous notice. Somedays I feel like a parasite taking control of a host, but i guess its a normal feeling when it comes to accepting the change of goals and the rethinking of old beliefs.
>This brainfog was an extreme lowpoint fur art as thats when automation completely took over,
I been also having this problem, now i keep furgetting even from the simplest things, the lack of sleep has made my brain act in autopilot, sometimes I even furgot how to think and talk properly.
>drawing became something horrible feeling. every drawing felt the same, i used the same patterns a lot over and over
The opposite is happening to me, everytime I pick up the pencil my style would change fur no apparent reason, it feels awful to not being about to draw the same thing twice. Someone knows if there's a way to practice consistency?
>his art looked the same as it did years ago, (very cute, with a certain ordinary charm that felt missing these days, from not only my art, but others too.
Ah, the classic Sovl vs Sovless debate geg. I do sometimes check my old drawings and they feel almost alive compared to my drawings now being hollow, broken or totally incoherent. 
>studying more again, which i didn't actually do. i rarely study ever anymore, and didn't even once tbh. 
Practice is key, but too much can also be problematic. I practiced too much anatomy (mostly torsos and arms) and now things feels mechanical and unnatural and I can't even draw legs kek. 
>i dont want to keep using guidelines as my solution, because as charming as it was, it is against my way as an artist,
I personally hate using references cause it makes me feels like a total fraud, copying other people ideas and concepts feels like cheating, but I realized that limiting myself is counterproductive and unnecessary. 
>the new fix was simply waiting fur an idea befure starting
I haven't find a fix myself, I have countless ideas waiting to be manifested but if feels like I've loss the ability to draw even the simplest things. I will try to keep grinding through the pain and using more references doe.
>The reasoning goes like this: the parts you draw when you "see it" tend to be of superior talent to the parts you produce automatically. 
I agree, when things have a purpose and a meaning behind they tend to be more cohesive and coherent.
>as blindness is just doing things automatically, which is directly what you are opposing, every step of the way.
Thanks fur all the suggestions and tips, and it's good to know that there are sliver platters even on this situations. 
>but it'd be interesting to know if it helps you. 
I'll try it, to take care and effurt in each line and to stop drawing like a sovless machine. 

>>5287
>i predict that AI will lead to a sustained competency collapse. 
I kinda disagree, I dont think that AI slop will lead to the colapse of competency if something lead to an over-production of slop that will make it harder to stand out and reach the spotlight. 
>everyone thought ai was going to become a supercomputer that replaces all the jobs, but what will actually happen, is it will lead to people becoming incompetent
I've kinda seen the opposite, more people are learning about niche topics that ever befure, artist incorporating AI into their creative process, companies hiring more people with more specialized and complex curriculums.  
>We've seen AI has already destroyed culture and places of learning, and i think the rot will not heal until it is actively stopped. 
Sure, it's true that the academia is having problems with the AI but sooner that later they will find solutions, maybe limiting it (like they did with the cellphones) or allowing it (like the calculators) 
>i think the problem the world is having these days, is kinda similar to problem i had in art, and that the solution is... doing what I'm doing... 
Yep, automation and the lack of "Taste" is quite common in most of the AI content out there, most of it is either pure goofslop or boring meaningless shit. 
>i am genuinely afraid fur my future, and 28 is too young to be sounding like an old man yelling at the younger gens, its not normal how bad they are.
It's normal to feel overwhelmed and concerned about the future. Especially on these chaotic times but  remember that there's always something out there to be seen and to be experienced, like the breeze of a wind, or the sunlight of a new day. So don't let the bad thoughts ruin your day. I recommend you to take some time to rest and maybe an internet detox. 
>the reason older generations seem better and cooler is because of their artisanship born in their smaller world  
>we can win, even only if it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.
Exactly, the world has change ever since, it has become broader and wider but it's sustance has remain intact, so continue creating and enjoy the ride! 

>>5289
>the idea that an artist could skipped straight to digital feels insane to me
I actually started on digital but then went to traditonal because drawing with a mouse sucks lol.  

>>5291
>i dont like how genuis gives song meanings or even claim it to be the case without artist confirmation or other refrence.
Art can have multiple interpretations and sometimes those may differ from the autor initial intentions, which i personally find endearing.
>i am listening to random words being said at certain freqeuncys besides the fact that it sounds good.
Erm, are you describing how music works or unironically trying to find meaning in random noise? If so, then stop you may drive yourself squizo kek.
>how do you become more versed at communicating more abstract ideas.
Expose yourself to more obscure and niche multimedia, your brain will slowly absorb those abstract ideas and concepts, similar to how osmosis works. 
>thanks fur letting me use my brain because i wouldnt be convinced otherwise. automation bad is a sentiment proably in alot of the idea play things i like to learn about and it would be funny fur that just go over my head 
Agree, drawing "blindly"/automation has been detrimental to both my drawing skills and state of mind. And the solution seems to be the use of my brain and the focus on a purpose while drawing. 
>youtube is mostly automated entertainment. oracleee of taste. like how its choosing the songs i listen to.
My youtube algorithm has also started to behave rather quirky recently, a lot of videos feel targeted and tailored just fur me. I even found a channel that feels like seeing a skewed reflection of myself. 
>being organized into other bubbles of similar intrests to a artifical animal magnetism to become whatever thing it wants me to be!
I Too Feel Like Being Influenced Upon.
>i wonder if they go through the same amount of personal lessons to reach there skill.
I don't know fur sure but i would argue that this process happens to all of us sooner or later. Some people call it artblock, burnout or hiatus but at the end is all the same, a waiting time imposed by the brain to recover. 

>>5293
Cute. 

>>5294
Oh hey, Great news! How are things going now? 

Also i'm going to post some sketches i've done this week (from oldest to newest) to show the decline.
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>>5295
>You are quite good at making metaphors anon
thank you :)

>I been also having this problem, now i keep furgetting even from the simplest things, the lack of sleep has made my brain act in autopilot, sometimes I even furgot how to think and talk properly.
if you're having brainfog or focusing issues, that is very serious, i recommend eating a variety of foods in case its a nutritional issue, and taking better care of yourself. Don't mess around. eat fish, or use omega 3 fish oil supplements. my issue went away with potatoes, literally just eating a lot of home made fries, so i recommend that if it actually the same issue. 

> I practiced too much anatomy
contrary to popular sayings, anatomy is a side dish, a supporting element fur times when you're confused. the best way to learn the furm of something is not anatomy, but simply drawing the furm as you see it, as in... normal drawing. you shouldn't study anatomy (like muscle pictures) except when you're confused. also many things do not show in anatomy, like fat pockets, and it can make your drawing look like the corpse you studied. use responsibly. I speak from experience, i wasted a lot of time on it.

>Someone knows if there's a way to practice consistency?
i think it happens naturally as you get better. its not something you practice i think, more like, something you're aware of. "if i do shapes like this, i get this style, must stick to these type shapes."

>I personally hate using references cause it makes me feels like a total fraud, copying other people ideas and concepts feels like cheating, but I realized that limiting myself is counterproductive and unnecessary. 
strongly recommend learning to draw entirely from memory :) its what i do! i know that probably sounds impossible, but just try. watch this video >>5192 and maybe this >>5187
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>Also, if you dont mind could you post those drawings you are talkin about?
here are some of my first dragon girls :D
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>>5297
very cute, anon
i really like their snoots

sort of reminds me of dragonite (from pokemon)
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>>5299
these were depression drawings. at around the trad drawing is where im starting to get bothered by how many guy and dragon drawings i'd do i think. looking back, a lot of the drawings seem to have been made with good focus despite the depression up to this point. definitely not as bad as after when i had the nutrition issues. I guess while appeal was hard fur me to see, it wasn't totally invisible, so i could make it work.
>>5298
the first one was responding to tuna drawing herself as a dragonite!
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>>5300
oh... wait maybe im silly and I just hadn't lost the passion yet. makes sense, i think i had the depression fur a bit befure it killed my art drive.
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>>5301
These drawings are really nice
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>>5302
thx :D
>>5295
>i would like to see how that "mechanical blindly drawing" looked like in your case, cause most my drawings been looking exacly like that lol.
the problem is i don't save them... and i try to avoid it haha... but here is a good example. feels like im doing the same thing over and over again
the light inside you glows, increases until it expands outwards.
until everything around you seems wonderful. 

I think this might be where passion comes from! all the cute things seems so cute now, like a little bit of vanilla added to everything. oh the wonders of actually having a full time job...  i didn't even catch myself when i thought it, i don't want to die right now, i'd rather be alive. I remember when i was younger, i rly liked life and living, thought it was good, felt like i was one of the only ones that liked it. i'm feeling like that again, i have a heart that can feel things
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heres another automatic one... still worked out
>>5296
realize i made some mistakes, anatomy is not only fur when you're confused, but also if interested. (don wanna exaggerate). also you probably can practice your consistency, but its probably not something you need to do, its not like you're making a comic.
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>>5307
What's it like to live without a computer?
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>>5308
living on a phone instead. outside of no big boy games, it kind of the same, but more annoying
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