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One without the other (if we were to use the contemporary conception of nihilism here) is just hopepunk capeshit, dehsue. N's preached the non-existence of objective values, but instructed the coming Men to create Their own, that's not nihilism by the original definition of the term (and he indeed denounced it in his writing), but if nihilism nowadays only means a lack of belief in God or divine order in the greater scheme of things, then it's a distinction without a difference.
„Your God is dust, the Nine is up[...]‟ - Bladee