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Every dollar spent on drones and cruise missiles is a dollar not spent on creating a dimensional gate to the Anthroverse
It could be funded in under a year if we cut welfare and pensions and replaced every current tax with with a 100% inheritance tax.
>>98181 (OP) 
>this message has been brought to you by the Pale Lodge
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>>98181 (OP) 
I put my trust into science, namely genetic engineering. It seems like the most viable means of reaching the anthrogoal. There is still a good way to go, but at least there is some semblance of a path.
>Interdimensionality&parallel realities
We still have an extremely basic understanding of quantum physics, in fact the whole field seems to be built on crutches as there are too many unknowns.
>Space travel
Also in its infancy. We sort of know where to look and have a few working theories but even those, if funded, would not be enough to get us beyond this solar system, realistically, without some kind of breakthrough Epstein drive. Space travel R&D is also much more expensive in terms of resources. And even if we somehow managed to build a vehicle capable of reaching the speed of light, even ignoring the time needed to reach the said velocity it would take years to get anywhere, and it would probably be empty or have like gaseous ass crabs or sapient crystals or something.
Agreed, please help end Waltuh hunger
>>98186
>I put my trust into science
We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese
>>98186
>muh interstellar travel
gay and cringe
interplanetaryGODS won
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>>98186
>Feasible interstellar.
Not happening you can’t break causality. Only way I see it happening is a pilgrims situation where people go on a short 4-10 year voyage to a nearby system to escape something. Regardless nowhere near the distance to encounter something alive and even if you waited one thousand years for it to happen, on earth it takes another thousand for the information about it to get back to you.
>>98349
Serious answer:  if humanity becomes an interplanetary species, it isn't the West that will do it, not with the current culture.  The US might have done it had certain technological achievements or insights appeared prior to around 1955.  Now we're too risk-averse, too squeamish, too comfortable with managed decline.

Go lookup the Zubrin nuclear salt water reactor.  We could build them today.  Full stop.  It's completely feasible and would have fit perfectly into Chesley Bonestell's illustrated version of Willy Ley's "The Conquest of Space" that so many Boomers still have on their coffee tables.  Will we?  No.  It's nucular.  It's scurry.  We'd have to spend money on it that we already plan to use babysitting Paco, Jamal, and Pajeet.

Russia isn't going to do it.  They're in a demographic death-spiral and en route to complete collapse in the near term, worse than 1917, worse than 1991.  China?  China has always looked inward, not outward.  The CCP's ideal future is hive-cities right here on Earth, filled with genetically engineered posthuman bugman slaves content to live in ze pod, eat ze bugs, devote their lives to enriching them then die quietly without making a fuss.  I also rather strongly suspect that China's much-ballyhooed meteoric ascent is 98% smoke and mirrors, that their population figures and GDP are both a fraction of what are claimed, but everyone in their government pretends to believe it and passes inflated figures for everything up and down the chain because failure to go along enthusiastically could cause Party members to lose face, which would result in somebody getting disappeared at 2am by a Ministry for State Security black-bag team.  The uncs among us may recall the Japanese "bubble economy" of forty years ago, which they managed just with fear of public social shaming, without even an Orwellian 24/7/365 total surveillance totalitarian police state that literally kills people for questioning it.  China has been "ten years from superpower status" and a seat at the big kids' table since the Great Leap Forward and isn't far behind Russia on the path to collapse.

We aren't willing to do it.  Western Europe imploded thirty years ago.  Russia can't.  China can't and doesn't even have the cultural drives that'd make them contemplate the idea for a quarter of a second.  Japan's population is aging rapidly and much more interested in other things.  India?  Wait, you're serious.  I'll laugh harder.  That leaves approximately nobody with the drive and resources to pursue the project, barring a yuge geopolitical shakeup and every applecart getting not just overturned but blasted to atoms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_salt-water_rocket
https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/enginelist2.php#nswr
https://www.npl.washington.edu/AV/altvw56.html

For the curious.  The tl;dr is, imagine a large-ish, on the order of tens of meters in diameter, hollow incomplete sphere lined with a heat-resistant material that reflects neutrons, like maybe tungsten carbide.  The sphere is the reaction chamber.  One side of it, which we'll call the bottom, has a rocket nozzle sticking out of it.  The other, which we'll call the top, has tubes going in that bring in a liquid fuel.  This isn't just any rocket fuel.  It's soluble uranium salts, like maybe uranium tetrabromide, dissolved in water, with a high level of fissile isotopes like U235 or maybe U233.  The concentration of dissolved uranium and the volume and shape of the reaction chamber are designed very carefully so that you get a chain reaction when the chamber is not quite full of fuel; fuel tanks are long and skinny so that a critical mass doesn't form until the fuel is in the reactor.  Anyway, when sufficient fuel is in the reactor, a chain reaction takes place.  In a millisecond the water mixture flashes over to steam, then plasma, and squirts through the nozzle as a roostertail of radioactive fire going that-a-way at, if you believe Zubrin's back-of-the-envelope calculations, around fifty kilometers a second.  That's-a spicy-a meatball!  Specific impulse, the number that the rocket scientists call Iₛₚ, is yuge for this system and makes any and all chemical rocket fuels, even the weird exotic ones that use crazy dangerous stuff like chlorine trifluoride as the oxidizer, look pointless.

It is for real.  It is legit.  Dr. Zubrin is the real deal.  And if he'd been born seventy or eighty years earlier, I'm sure President Eisenhower and Admiral Heinlein would have the Navy building "atomic blast engine" space battleships before cars had tailfins.  Americans could have been prospecting the asteroid belt for rare heavy metals before 1965.  But he wasn't.  And they didn't.  And Americans have been conditioned from birth since the 1970s to hear the word "nuclear" and start screaming and flailing hysterically like children with Down's Syndrome on a school trip to visit an abattoir.  Who will come after us, who'll pick up the King's crown from the gutter to put it on their own heads like Napoleon?  Will anyone?  Spoiler:  no
>>98473
>Now we're too risk-averse, too squeamish, too comfortable with managed decline.
No, we're not. It's just that you have a lot of powerful people that want things to decline, because that's how you achieve their magical utopia. Nuts like Alice Bailey (Who's works are published by the U.N., I shit you not) even posited the theory that there's a "fixed" number of souls in the world, and we've since surpassed the point where there is more humans than souls to go around, and the result is that modern man are mostly souless apes. And that we need to "regress" populations to the point that there's enough people for every soul (Not counting the slaves who will keep things going).
>>98473
>>98481
You don't need some super duper advanced poop fart engine with 6 gorrilion isp to go interplanetary. IDK why you chuds are such doomer boomers when the US is LITERALLY about to send humans beyond LEO for the first time since 1972 in two weeks™️
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>>98482
>You don't need some super duper advanced poop fart engine with 6 gorrilion isp to go interplanetary
No, what you need are futas. Because it will be a multi-generational project. And so you need to find someway to create a society that will be able to easily sustain and replace itself while out of contact with Earth, and that's much easier with a single-sex society. I'm only half joking.
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>>98485
you forgot your flag xis
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>>98481
>there's a "fixed" number of souls in the world, and we've since surpassed the point where there is more humans than souls to go around, and the result is that modern man are mostly souless apes.
Is she saying that most people are NPCs?  Sounds pretty based.
>>98482
>poop fart engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5S0OjTq9kY

With sufficient fissionable isotopes breeder reactor gives you "free" plutonium, and Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories had an experimental two-stage fission-fusion hybrid reactor with cheap U-238 shielding that it transmuted into plutonium back during the Ford Administration does away with most of the practical objections.  "You'd have to accelerate and coast for two and a half years and then decelerate to get to Neptune," etc., is null and void when an NSWR engine ship can make the trip in weeks, without 98% of its rest mass being fuel and requiring a fuel stockpile at the destination for the return trip, that will also take two and a half years.  It's a shortcut to EAZY MODO space travel straight out of a 1950s sci-fi magazine and bypasses the whole chemical-fuel-rocket tech tree altogether.
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>>98487
>Is she saying that most people are NPCs?  Sounds pretty based.
Do you really want me to post how I was introduced to this batshit insane lady?
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>>98487
hey look your goofy ahh website (my favorite hard sci-fi resource) says that the orion drive is better or something

also zubrin is too busy seething over musk and russia to make your precious NSWR a reality
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>>98490
https://newdiscourses.com/2022/12/wtf-is-sel/
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>>98489
Orion is an excellent system but given that it would require construction in orbit of a gigantic ship carrying hundreds or thousands of nuclear weapons, it was judged to be politically a non-starter seventy years ago, in a culture vastly more accepting of risk and, critically, before the current crop of pink-haired State Department theater kids was born, vastly less concerned with geopolitical "provocation."  When Eisenhower, Nixon, John Foster Dulles, and Hyman Rickover all look at the blueprints and say 'This is some kewl shiznit but I'm pretty sure the Russians would nuke us to stop us from building it," the concept is pretty far out there.  NSWR has the advantage, in terms of geopolitics and perceptions, of not being a giant silo full of atomic bombs orbiting the earth a few hundred miles up.  I'm just Saiyan.

>tfw you will never see America build Orion-drive space bombers with nose art

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bct3MwkxE0Y
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>>98491
>theosophy
O SHIT SON, O LAWD

Those who know, know.  For those who don't, it was a late-19th-Century "new religious movement" (read: cult) that was cobbled together out of kewl-sounding mysticism yoinked from a whole bunch of seemingly exotic foreign religions.  Though it was maybe less a single cult and more a label a bunch of cults adopted, with mostly similar-ish belief systems that were crazy quilts sewn together from Russian Orthodox mysticism, Hindu mysticism, Kabbalah, Gnosticism, and a whole lot of other stuff.  Theosophy appears to be the origin of the "mystical monks with superpowers from Tibet" trope.

Theosophy had some important celebrities and backers involved with it, like Edison, and for a while there was money, both for the people at the top and traveling fortune-tellers who claimed to be connected with it.  It got a lot less popular after the turn of the century and pretty much vanished during the Great Depression, but for a while "theosophy" in the US was a magnet for autists like Sonic the Hedgehog is today.  Yuge numbers of Americans a hundred and thirty years ago were absolutely nuts for seances and "spirit readings" and reincarnation and and "higher dimensional vibrations" and all that word salad.  The Volkisch movement in Germany borrowed big chunks of Theosophy unacknowledged, too.  Memes originating in theosophy found their way into everything from Freemasonry to Fascism to 1980s "New Age" stuff.  It was also a magnet for con artists, which you probably already guessed. Many cults now borrow from their playbook and don't even know it.

It's an endlessly entertaining topic if you look into the history, though maybe don't dwell so much on the pedophilia scandals that helped kill it off.  I recommend it.
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>>98493
>THE SHACKLETON DISASTER
You can kinda experience something like this with Children of a Dead Earth. There's no Orion drive or anything more advanced than standard NTRs since the dev wanted everything to be represented with real equations rather than speculation. Still a good game though, too bad there's no other space combat game that takes orbital mechanics into account except for modded KSP. Maybe Terra Invicta?  I purchased it, but I haven't had the time to play it yet. they have NSWRs

I remember seeing a thread on here with a furanon's drawing of a realistic space battle inspired by COADE sometime last year. I wonder if he's still here with us...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiIh4Xw2bnQ
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>>98497
>COADE
Do you, too, enjoy scenes of apocalyptic space warfare while listening to fitting music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWLcds4jk5M
>>98497
CoaDe is awesome just hate when shit turns into a slideshow when i want to fire a hundred missiles they need to make another
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>>98546
TSMT
I’m on the retaking ceres mission(I lost cuz I was a scrub) and the game became a literal slideshow when my striker drones intercepted the enemy fleet and fired all of their guns at once.
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>>98489
>Yea we need to go to the moon to… Run the already unprofitable AI! 
I love the free market but it’s been disappointing me as of late.
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>>98590
The markets would be much more free if companies weren't forced by law to prioritize shareholder revenue over paying fair wages to the people who actually produce the revenue
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>>98591
This is your daily reminder of the Dodge v. Ford Motor Co. case
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>>98592
Just WHAT were they snorting?
>>98181 (OP) 
Its quite simple we need souls
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>>98568
I wanna play aurora 4x but Everytime I try to download it it always fucks up so I've been playing nebulous waiting from them to drop their campaign update
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>>98641
>strategy slop
faget
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>>98642
all gaymes are strategy games if you think about it
>>98641
Have you tried Terra invicta?
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>>98645
Nah I haven't is it any good I remember seeing gameplay of it in early access when it first released
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Try whiskerwood, dasa cool anthro strategy city builder. It’s like better timberborn. Only problem my computer no likey.
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>>98647
idk i haven't played it yet but the tech tree is straight out of https://projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/
>>98473
Interesting.
>>98491
>>98481
It'd be pretty funny if the people running ZOG all believed in a repackaged Jewish mysticism finite souls theory, but I would not trust James "You wake up... Woke." Lindsay to give a believable account of it.
>>98648
thats not hard sci-fi doe, its cuteslop for normfurs
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