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What's your opinion on systemd?
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>wearing a linux shirt
now this is the real "SFF"
im not bothering to setup something else in arch or use artix, simple as
I dunno the lore is the fox a tranny or not?
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>>105064
no thats a tranny diversion later on
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I use it as I don't know OpenRC syntax and can't be bothered to learn.
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>>105078
But it's so easy
rc-service <service> start/stop/restart
rc-update add/remove <service> <boot level>
I use stock Ubuntu because I'm barely above the average Windows user. I'll learn how computers really work one day in the near future.
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>>105058 (OP) 
I avoid it just because I don't want to feel obliged to do what Red Hat wants
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>>105106
>red hat
where?
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>>105058 (OP) 
Truth nuke - mainstream economics is political propaganda and the real economy, financial control and its use and distribution are the real core of all politics and culture and even human evolution in law-based societies. We have a hyper centralised economy controlled by big banks and megafunds that are disproportionately Jewish or Jewish adjacent, and a mainstream media controlled by big financiers tied up with those banks and megafunds and tell the public what to think and show them what political candidates they should vote for. Until this economy is overturned the power structure behind White genocide will continue chugging along. This is why Occupy Wall Street made them crap their pants, not because they want people divided, but because they don't want the decentralisation and nationalising of the banking system, because it would prevent them being able to brainwash and financially dictate the tastes, culture and politics of Western countries anymore. And now they're aggressively trying to pass hate speech laws, digital ID, CBDCs and mass online centralisation and censorship to have control and oversight over all your transactions and to close the Pandora's box that's been opened on them and replace the media information monopoly with a monopoly of paid influencers and astroturfing. SystemD and the abrupt push to add "age verification" to Linux while everyone is distracted with Iran is part of this digital control grid for globalist Jews
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>>105108
k
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>>105111
OP asked a question and he got an answer, nobody asked you anything jew
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>>105114
look at how small your fucking nigga brain is
>>105108
bitcoin world order and all this just vanishes overnight
>>105090
I am the same way lol
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>>105115
She's still cute and lovable, doebeit.
>>105115
No nigveri slander in my foo.
>>105151
for a second i thought this was a reply to >>105115
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>>105078
For anyone else ITT with a similar opinion, I can't recommend Alpine Linux enough if you're looking for a way to try OpenRC without being too overwhelmed, as their wiki makes the process a lot less frustrating. I switched from Void less than two weeks ago and have gotten dwm working alongside PulseAudio solely using info from their respective wiki pages.
https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/OpenRC
https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Daily_driver_guide
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>>105294
>just use the OS specifically designed for containers as a personal OS bro, nothing can go wrong and you definitely won't bang your head against the wall because a coreutil is missing haha lol lmao
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I just arch and it works on my machine

/end thread/
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>>105295
Many others online daily drive it, and I've personally had a lot of fun getting it to work with minimal bloat. I was able to install a full desktop environment via apk (a blazing-fast C package manager) and Tor Browser via Flathub without my install going over 1250MB. It's not for all Linux users, of course, but there's great satisfaction to be had for those willing to challenge themselves a little. I still don't know a great deal about Linux in general, but I was able to learn a lot thanks to Alpine (and I'm still learning two weeks post-install!).
Of course, minimal installs come with challenges. I can't play pre-1.3.X versions of Minecraft via Prism Launcher (with an offline patch, of course) without enabling glibc in some way, but I heed this as a warning from the universe that I'm much better off reading or interacting with others than playing Minecraft alone. Cuck mindset, I know, but I've read a lot more recently than I did when using Arch. I recommend Mort(e) by Robert Repino for anyone wanting to read about a grumpy anthro cat having to take down an army of ants trying to control the world, and Rafts by Utunu if you're gay.
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>>105108
>Occupy Wall Street made them crap their pants
KYS.
>>105294
While I do like alpine for containers, using it for a daily drive seems a bit odd. Then again, I don't actually know what other distros ship with openrc other than gentoo and that's not a great beginner recommendation even if I like it
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>>105312
I would use Gentoo if the install process didn't filter me a year ago, as I'm a big fan of the concept of USE flags. The good thing is that you can use the Gentoo wiki when running Alpine and vice-versa to an extent, as they both use OpenRC.
Another thing of note is that Alpine's use of BusyBox replaces the GNU coreutils seen in many other Linux distros such as Gentoo, turning Alpine from GNU/Linux into something along the lines of Linux/Linux. Thus, Alpine is more BSD-like than Gentoo; I see this as a positive, as I would be using OpenBSD if not for the lack of hardware and software support present.
Additionally, I enjoy that the user can switch from stable to bleeding edge just by changing three lines in their repositories file. I'm unsure if Gentoo has anything like this, and my only critique of the system is that you have to go all-in on bleeding edge for all of your packages unless you want to break your install.
The overarching point is that I would have NEVER learned this much about Linux if I gave up on Alpine like I did with Gentoo. Maybe I'll try again once I get too comfy, but for now, OpenRC has werked just fine for me.
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>>105308
>trust me bro I ran [insert flavor of the month] for 2 weeks
>>105308
Also sauce on picrel?
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>>105327
bottom left :)
https://xcancel.com/creature_sp/status/1704956163333218312
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>>105329
good art
>checks bio
but damn...
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>>105331
neither linux nor a good amount of really good furry art would exist without trans women, which i suppose is both a blessing and a curse
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>>105332
ok man
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>>105333
you were so distracted trying to smugpost about me only being two weeks into using alpine to the point that you couldnt spot the worlds most obvious watermark... when a black disabled trans woman of color is speaking u better sit ur ass down and listen......
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>>105334
why do you keep saging my thread, kinda rood
>smugpost
rent free
>couldnt spot the worlds most obvious watermark
Because I ascended above watermarks, I don't see them. You think a watermark is gonna stop me? I am a menace on the internet, artists fear for their donut OCs
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>>105335
>why do you keep saging
cause im being off-topic sorry
>i ascended above watermarks
holy shit i kneel...
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>>105336
also had no clue that you were OP until you said so LOL my bad my bad...
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>>105338
you type like a tranny
>>105336
>cause im being off-topic sorry
nobody uses sage like that in 2026 anymore, way to out yourself as a graybeard oldfag
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>>105339
>being a balding graybeard oldfag tranny linux autist
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>>105340
what is wrong with you?
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>>105341
a lot but can we go back to talking about systemd please
part of the reason why i like avoiding it is because i feel like the size of the project makes it a lot more susceptible to malicious attacks by outsiders (like what we are seeing right now with age verification) - people have become essentially locked into using it and the widespread adoption of it means any bad updates pushed forwards are going to be tolerated by significantly more people
alternative init systems like openrc are a lot less valuable as targets because it's smaller pool of users are (hypothetically) a lot more likely to switch away if things go awry, as they have more technological knowlegde and willingness to use it per capita compared to modern-day systemd users
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>>105342
>they have more technological knowlegde and willingness
Not true because systemd is used in the real world(tm) by every sysadmin. Only hobbiest (and troons, like you, no offense) use OpenRC. Also systemd just werks and name one bad things about it.
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>>105345
>systemd is used in the real world
you're right, i'm really only thinking from a consumer perspective i guess. i have no idea what distros large companies run on their linux servers besides maybe debian and ubuntu but perhaps all of the recent news shifts those who watch over a smaller number of servers (as smaller markets react faster to market shifts due to their lower liquidity) to alpine or other server distros
>name one bad thing about systemd
people use it without knowing why which means its a hecking meme like muh stinkpads
also as i explained in my last post, the larger userbase makes it inherently more valuable for hackers. member that ubuntu exploit from march? it was only possible because of systemd
https://thehackernews.com/2026/03/ubuntu-cve-2026-3888-bug-lets-attackers.html?m=1
if that doesn't convince you, then surely you remember the xz utils backdoor that only affected users running systemd
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XZ_Utils_backdoor
>Once the compromised version is incorporated into the operating system, it alters the behavior of OpenSSH's SSH server daemon by abusing the systemd library, allowing the attacker to gain adm,nistrator access.
also i found a site with a LOT of xenia art. scroll past the trans stuff at the start and it's just images from there on out
https://xenia.efi.pages.gay/
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>>105349
>a site with a LOT of xenia art
I remember finding this site myself but never went back because of the trans shit. Xenia will always be a biological woman, she is not trans. That was a psyop by an obsessed tranny clinging for relevancy and now ebegging on social media for scraps. I repeat: Xenia Will Always Be A Biological Woman.
XWABABW
>the larger userbase makes it inherently more valuable for hackers
It also means systemd has more developers and security researches behind it making it sure it works better and is more secure. It goes both ways!
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>>105351
>XWABABW
preach xista
>it goes both ways
true but the (admittedly unclear) point i was trying to make is that i am far more likely over the course of a year to have an active security vulnerability be used against me when running systemd (huge userbase with both professional and clueless users, high motivation for attackers to exploit) compared to openrc or runit (small tinkertranny userbase that is willing to spend an entire afternoon installing a new os just for the fun of it, hackers can make significantly less off of bug bounties / holding the service hostage / stealing info)
are these smaller init systems easier to exploit due to their lackluster management and low amount of funding? oh most definetely. do hackers with the resources to do so want to get in trouble with the law for targeting 50 million systems when they could work a little harder and compromise 500 million? i would imagine not
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>>105352
>preach xista
OH god you piss me off so much
>i am far more likely over the course of a year to have an active security vulnerability be used against me when running systemd
alr fair enough
>do hackers with the resources to do so want to get in trouble with the law for targeting 50 million systems when they could work a little harder and compromise 500 million? i would imagine not
True, but
>openrc or runit (small tinkertranny userbase that is willing to spend an entire afternoon installing a new os just for the fun of it, hackers can make significantly less off of bug bounties / holding the service hostage / stealing info)
I'd rather my shit just werk so I can go and do real work (tm) instead of spending my hard earned afternoon fixing shit that shouldn't be broken to begin with (because broken is the default on Linux muhahahahaha)
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>>105345
You say "use systemd" as if that's a conscious choice sysadmins make about what init their distro should be but I'd wager they just use it because it comes preinstalled with whatever stable distro they happen to be using (Debian for instance). I don't think they use it because it's better or worse because ultimately what init system you use is of little importance in a professional context as long as it works. But when you're renting vms from aws and the responsibility for their uptime and initial setup isn't your problem, even interacting with the init system at all sounds unlikely. I don't use k8s enough to really know but I'm pretty sure init stuff is largely handled automatically and thus the choice is irrelevant. So using "professional" applications as an argument doesn't make sense to me. 

The arguments for systemd I think are mostly related to just the size of the user base, so you get more developers working on it. But on the flipside, the fact that your init system needs security developers on it implies it has grown beyond the scope of just being a simple init system (see runit). My personal dislike of it comes from it deviating from Unix philosophy and being too monolithic, and sinking it's hooks into everything.
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>>105353
a wise man once said that convenience is the enemy of security... linux is by the people, of the people, and for the people, but the people are retarded
from a producer standpoint: understandably no one wants to make their objectively superior software work with the hot new standard or codec every time a new one drops (or make a sane install script)
from a consumer standpoint: elasticity is all over the place as some people are still using windows 7 and older while others are using windows 11 with all the extra goyware installed; tastes and preferences don't really change for the individual and any shifts to said tastes take a lot more effort (systemd to openrc) than other shifts like buying a different brand of bread
>>105354
you posted this while i was typing above but i agree, there is a sort of vendor lock-in with systemd
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>>105354
FAKE! Cassandra would NEVER have concern herself with the opinions of humans, let alone speak with any of them. She's too busy playing minecraft and building sky bases
>>105107
Systemd is developed mainly by Red Hat. Knowing their track record, especially with using EEE tactics, it can't be good.
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