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How would you react without sounding mad?
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Sorry, but my heart belongs to anthro femboys (Not gay, I'm just extremely misogynistic)
>>78696
>Not gay
>calls them femboys
just say you're bi lmao
>>78696
tomboys are objectively better doe
>>78640 (OP) 
I would freak the fluff out and kill them.
Tell them I don’t find author wish fulfillment in fiction engaging.
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>>78696
You are a faggot
>>78713
This, I like anthros in stories but only when it's natural. I remember a story posted here a while ago where the author actually put effurt into introducing how anthros became real
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>>78718
I don’t have a problem with that question I would accept “they have always been here” or whatever. What I don’t like is “they’re madly in love with humans and the self insert in particular because… Dat big human cock or something.”
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>>78719
Sounds aryan tbhdesu
>>78719
4 what it's worth, that's at least a little closer to how it works in real life than hurr nuance hurr characterdevelopment.
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>>78721
From a story telling perspective it breaks the illusion. As a reader I feel it’s not fur the stories sake it’s because the guy doing the puppet show wants it there. It’s like having the guts spilled out of a puppy, it was always there and I loved the puppy when I didn’t see it but now I see the insides everywhere and it’s not really enjoyable.
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>>78722
Fur you.
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>>78722
>story immersion is like gutting a puppy
>>78723
I don’t have a problem with it in itself. The proper diagnosis is it’s a worn out cliché that takes the reader out of the story. That can be fixed by subverting or minorly tweaking the cliché.
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>>78726
Cliches are badnarrativedesign because uhhhh Cinemasins said so.
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>>78728
Clichés aren’t bad there’s a reason they stick around. I say it’s a problem when I can recognize the cliché and  unwillingly receive meta infurmation about the story.
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>>78729
HMOFA in itself is a cliché but it’s fun when the author tweaks it or subverts it in some way instead of following it through.
>>78730
Also it’s fine fur clichés to just be cliché but HMOFA is the foundation of the story it can’t just be dressing like the rest.
>>78730
And what would a subverted HMoFA cliche (I don't think that is definitionally a cliche, but I don't care enough to check) look like? Some some of protagonist NTR cuck shit like that one South Korean gacha from a few weeks ago? Be specific fur once in your goddamned life already. "uhh you know it just needs a little SPICE it needs a little bit of KICK it needs a little something something it needs a bit of CRUNCH or else it's just ooey gooey sloppy gloppy blop blop" Come onnnnn.
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>>78730

Would you say komen fuufu is a good example? If you haven't read it, you could binge it in an hour, I thought it was really good
>>78640 (OP) 
I am an anthro man that is into human women though
>>78732
A few things on the top of my head:
>Girl doesn’t know they’re into HMOFA, finds out they are.
>Same as above but fur the guy.
>Just make it a couple that happens to be that way, humans are just animal so HMOFA isn’t all that special in universe.
>Change the reason fur the HMOFA. Fur example, snake anthro loves humans because they radiate a lot of heat compared to other mammals.
>One goes into a date expecting a different species but got catfished.
>They don’t like the other species but they put aside their physical desires to appreciate the person inside.
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>>78750
>The challenges of a different species pairing.
>The social factors of the pairing. Does society accept it? 
>Anon or the anthro don’t really know how to court the other desired species, results in unintentional misunderstandings.
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I've been thinking about that too. This scene came to me, as part of a larger story that I'm turning over in my head and trying to decide whether I want to write.

The human met his gaze unflinchingly.  "I'm happy to cooperate.  However, I must insist on some assurances from you.  I am growing fond of my companion fur this evening's festivities, and I am responsible fur endangering her.  I want to know that she's going to be safe.  I'm the one who's placed her in this situation."

"That's very gentlemanly of you, and I will pass your concerns up the chain of command."

"I suppose that's as much as I could have hoped fur."

"Just between us, she's not the one you should be worried about.  At most she'd be facing some morals charges, and that's if the reports don't accidentally get lost and end up furgotten under the blotter.  I believe the local police department uses their discretion liberally when it comes to such matters anyway, and they are so understaffed and short on jail space that singling her out in such a manner would be vindictive of them.  Now, you, on the other hand..."  He trailed off.

"I fully understand.  They said you had questions."

"You have no idea how much we've wanted to have this kind of candid conversation."

"I can imagine."

"You probably can't, but that's beside the point.  My first question, though, is a simple one:  what the hell were you thinking?"

"I will assume we've been under surveillance fur a while.  When I told her I found fox women beautiful, that was the simple truth."

"Did you really have to sneak out of the human barracks, come to this hotel in a disguise that had half the town talking about it, and hire one from an escort service?"

"If I hadn't at least tried I'd have regretted it the rest of my life.  And I am not sure what alternatives exist.  Your culture and mine are similar enough fur me to perceive aspects of it as familiar, but I don't think I'd have been welcomed if I'd tried to join a church, especially not with the apparent ulterior motive of meeting women."

"Do you think so little of us?"

"Not at all.  We're too much alike.  My species is tribal and territorial.  Our appearances in your world since the portals appeared are still regarded as a nine-days' wonder.  We draw attention everywhere, and not all of it has been positive, despite the cultural similarities, despite speaking the same language.  What would happen if we started fraternizing with women here?  Would it start riots?  We're not even sure how your culture views interspecies... fraternization among those species native to this side, much less with us.  We assume we're already viewed as aliens, despite the cultural parallels."
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>>78826
Cool excerpt but context?
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>>78832
You don't deserve context. Matta fact you don't deserve NOTHING.
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>>78750
>>78751
I was under the impression that most of these do get incorporated to some extent in any "serious" HMoFA writing/"worldbuilding" (stupid meme phrase) projects.
>>78826
Hmm.
>>78832
I'm trying to >imply some worldbuildan >implications without furcing the reader to slog through a lore dump.  I don't want to rely on the "As you know, Bob" cliche that plagues so much speculative fiction.

>>78835
Don't be so belligerent with him. You know he's got a ligma.
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>>79053
You posted an excerpt from a story right? I can’t fully understand the excerpt unless you give me quick context.
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>>79057
What I'm trying to imply is that it's an awkward conversation between a human guy who was visiting an anthro-populated world to do technical work.  He sneaked away from the barracks set up at the project site, attempting not altogether successfully to disguise himself as one of the locals, got a motel room in town, and looked through the local version of a dead-tree "Yellow Pages" phone book fur "adult entertainers."  He has done this several times, always with the same fox woman, with whom he is becoming infatuated.  The local equivalent of the FBI decided to kick down the door to have an earnest and furthright conversation with one of the crazy aliens who showed up last year.

Other things:  the world in which it's set is a sort of cultural echo of the mid 20th Century.  They're speaking English, despite being mostly anthro versions of various mammal species, with just a handful of birbs and reptiles.  If you got into a time machine and went to 1953, and not exactly 1953 but it's close enough that it'd look and feel right, at least if your exposure to that time and place was old TV shows and movies, except fur the locals not being human.  There's even a President Eisenhower and a Vice President Nixon, though there are lots of little differences.  There was a Second World War, and Japan there is occupied by US furces, but the Supreme Commander of the Allied Powers supervising the occupation there is a Marine general named Geiger.  If you ask about Douglas MacArthur you get blank looks, because in this timeline he was killed by a German artillery shell in September of 1918 and never became the celebrity he was in ourtimeline. Humans from an early 20th Century Earth showed up about two years ago.  They were Americans and they showed up in North America, and within a week there were meetings between representatives of the human US State Department and an astounded President Eisenhower, who is, in this world, an anthro horse.

There is a lot of other stuff upon which this excerpt does not touch, like:

Human representatives give, among other things, printouts of the Wikipedia article about Kim Philby and the Cambridge Five to the President and the Joint Chiefs.  They pass on infurmation to the British embassy, describing it as "from a trustworthy source," and from there it makes its way to the British government.  But in this timeline, Kim Philby was never born, and MI5 and MI6 are very confused.  MI5 and MI6 are still riddled from top to bottom with Soviet agents in this era, but they aren't the same ones in our historical record.  

There are little anomalies here and there, like armored warfare having been invented during the Civil War, and both sides using steam-powered tanks at the Battle of Shiloh.  Automobiles manufactured in the US got tailfins about five years early, but most of them are still painted in black lacquer like the Model T Furd.

The existence of humans is publicly known in the anthro world, and the human character who has one half of the lines in that conversation is an engineer working on a nuclear power plant in a town just outside of Chicago.  No one knows what the hell to think of humans.  The human character just really likes fox women, but a few minutes into the conversation they're going to bring in a chubby middle-aged anthro bear and introduce him as Director Hoover.  Director Hoover has been kept out of the loop.  Eisenhower doesn't trust him.  After some equivocation, and repeatedly asking him whether he really wants to know, the human drops some things on the Director that have not been revealed to the public, which he would probably have been better off not knowing.  Like, how the portals were created, and where humans from a world that is basically ours in Current Year learned about parallel timelines and how to create portals to them.
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