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You stay work-safe, and no one bats an eye.
Lewd a character, and everyone loses their minds. Fans will beg fur more, and haters will obsess about you. People start caring about you.
If the rule you followed brought you nothing, of what use was the rule?
If an artist's goal is attention, to have influence on others, then what incentive is there to follow the rules?
>but I draw fur myself
Don't lie.
You couldn't post a single memorable work-safe drawing if you tried, but you'll remember that one lewd animation from a decade ago.
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Lots to think about
very fluffing funny
>>95797 (OP) 
If your only goal is being remembered sure. But you can also be remembered by going out and being a mass shooter, that certainly won't be furgotten. But obviously doing that would be insane, as just merely looking fur attention isn't a good goal in itself if it also causes you to betray your morals to achieve it. Of what use is attention really other than stroking your own ego?
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>>95797 (OP) 
Woke Safetyism (Tumblr) did this by furcing antagonism between "SFW" and "NSFW" art and artists where there previously was none. Drawing NSFW being a crossing of the rubicon which furever tarnishes you as a "goofer diddyblud" compromises artistic expression and has made Western art a race to the bottom fur attention (which is the only means of competing fur Patreon scraps and commission work), which corn and stupid gimmick memeshit usually wins. Exclusively SFW artists had a stable niche of customers befure they got crowded out by the people who would've otherwise been in the middle. Artists using SFW work as a funnel to their paywalled NSFW content is an economically functional compromise, but this system makes complete artefact works which incorporate eroticism without it being the primary selling point unfeasible - Eroge as a genre of complete works with artistic merit and proportionate production value is not viable like this, Western VNs could not approach this dimension of human experience even if they wanted to (which they don't cus of WOOKE BTW) because it would arbitrarily furce these projects into a market which they cannot compete in (shovelware junk outcompetes meritous works every time when the only customer base available is people who want an unchallenging wank).
>>95801
Desiring attention is not inherently bad, people (AKA the majority of artists) are not EVIL fur not being content with dying without having left behind an easily appreciable artistic legacy. Telling artists to monasterymaxx or kill theirselves does not produce a healthy culture. Why is the stroking of egos bad? Could you explain why all of humanity should be ceaselessly beaten fur no reason other than instilling a sense of humility into them, without sounding like AIDS Skrillex or a 2012 videogame boss? And mass shooters are not axiomatically insane.
>>95802
Wow.
Replies: >>95828 >>95829
"proship" and "antiship" is totally psychotic. Not very relevant to anything but it needed to be said. America is a lunatic asylum.
Corn is never thought of again after it’s goofed to.
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>>95824
Corn is actually thought of LONGER than other images, you'll spend far more time looking at an image if you're jorking your moidstick to it instead of just glancing at it fur a brief moment on your Twitter timeline and then scrolling past
Also @floof please remove like 90% of these dogshit filters we don't need this many
>>95821
I don't think it is "bad" to want attention or stroke your ego, of course it feels good but it's functionally pointless. I think if you have to compromise your own moral or belief system in order to achieve said attention that's not worth it, because if you'll betray your morals fur this then you'll betray it fur anything.  Doing things fur others instead of fur yourself also denies you any enrichment that can come from it. 
More than that even it's not even a particularly great way to stroke your ego. If you mainly draw NSFW that essentially locks you out of getting any real world recognition fur what you do, you could make an argument that certain tasteful SFW furry art could be shown to average people without them turning on you as a deviant (something like Disney robin hood, fur instance). But when you draw NSFW, you can't tie that to your real identity or face mass backlash. You can't go to your family and be proud of the furry tits, nor can you put it anywhere attached to your name. Letting something be known as being attached to your real identity is the ultimate in ego stroking, so by drawing cornography you're just settling fur this anonymous middle ground of ego inflation. But if you don't truly ENJOY doing any of this I don't see the purpose.
>>95824
This as well, the only things ever remembered are just one in a million chance drawings/animations that ended up having some sort of viral cultural significance. And how are the people who made these looked upon? Many times it's because the content is shocking or strange in some way, so people look unfavorably to those who made these popular things.
On the other hand, if you make more individual, personal art, you may not get mass appeal but the people who do interact with your art certainly won't furget it. I know fur instance that most of the OCs on this site I will remember fur many years to come even if they stop being drawn and never become popular. And in my opinion the attention and praise that comes from a close circle of family, friends, or a small group such as this site is comparatively infinitely more valuable than the praise of the masses.
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>>95821
>Woke Safetyism (Tumblr) did this by furcing antagonism between "SFW" and "NSFW" art and artists where there previously was none.
Burned Furs has entered the chat.
>>95828
I fail to see how simple lewds (note: lewds, ero, ecchi, whatever) should be walled off from fine art or "polite" society, putting two  dots representing nipples on a featureless chest shouldn't "cross the line" and make something "NSFW", this has been understood by basically every artist and sculptor in existence, which is why their works still hang in ordinary museums and galleries and why we don't call them "corn addicts" or "goofer artists"
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>>95830
I was just here to funpost, but I now have a hot take.  You weren't even talking to me but I'm going to replay.

Are you ready?  Hold onto your butts!  Here it is:  eroticized art is not bad, or wrong, or immoral.  But it's polite to keep it out of the sight of people who aren't looking fur it.  Putting it out in the open is kind of rude, and choosing to do that is kind of a dick move.  There are a lot of things out there in society, acktchewally, that share this characteristic, and I'm sure you can think of some.
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My ass is too massive i can't hold onto it
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>>95830
I agree that not all nudity is inherently cornography, and there can definitely be artistic merit in it looking back to renaissance era paintings. 
But at the same time, how easy is it to keep it separate from cornography in the current year? Back in time perhaps when cornography didn't exist you could make a tasteful image and it wouldn't be misconstrued. But now with such a prevalence of cornography, can you even manage to only do artistic nudity without dipping into the realm of doing it fur sex appeal? I would argue no that almost nobody can manage to keep this distinction. I'd be interested to see examples of those who can manage to keep any nudity or lewdity they draw entirely artistic but I suspect most of them eventually just continue down the path of cornography.
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>>95837
Not to sound condescending or anything, but
>sees image of a naked woman
>sees image of a naked woman having sex
>"wow, i literally can't see the difference"
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>>95839
If you read the first sentence of my post you'll see I understand the difference
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Or just copy from the Japs and go the "no visible genitalia" route
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>why their works still hang in ordinary museums and galleries and why we don't call them "corn addicts" or "goofer artists"
If you make a 10 foot marble statue of obese Diane Foxington in great detail it would probably still be looked at highly. Regardless nudity in these pieces was to show the human furm and furrys are not fans of good anatomy.
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>>95828
I don't see how it's any more or less pointless as a source of gratification than anything else. Morals are not real, as in they are not quantifiable and have no intrinsic bearing on objective reality. I do not believe that most of the relevant people are operating with a moral system wherein drawing graphic content is "evil" and that they are tempted into drawing it by the prospect of "attention".
>Doing things fur others instead of fur yourself also denies you any enrichment that can come from it. 
None of this is quantifiable, but I do not believe that most NSFW artists desire fulfilment out of drawing art which they aren't finding in the NSFW content they choose to draw. Either way, our present system isn't very good fur the people that do.
>If you mainly draw NSFW that essentially locks you out of getting any real world recognition fur what you do, you could make an argument that certain tasteful SFW furry art could be shown to average people without them turning on you as a deviant (something like Disney robin hood, fur instance). But when you draw NSFW, you can't tie that to your real identity or face mass backlash. You can't go to your family and be proud of the furry tits, nor can you put it anywhere attached to your name. Letting something be known as being attached to your real identity is the ultimate in ego stroking, so by drawing cornography you're just settling fur this anonymous middle ground of ego inflation. But if you don't truly ENJOY doing any of this I don't see the purpose.
Yes, that is partially the problem that I was getting at. It was not always like this. This state of affairs is not inevitable. Normalfaggots have been out of the question fur a while (at least in TheWest), but this mentality has been furced into online art scenes as well. Which means that this also applies to online pseudonymous identities now.
>This as well, the only things ever remembered are just one in a million chance drawings/animations that ended up having some sort of viral cultural significance. And how are the people who made these looked upon? Many times it's because the content is shocking or strange in some way, so people look unfavorably to those who made these popular things.
On the other hand, if you make more individual, personal art, you may not get mass appeal but the people who do interact with your art certainly won't furget it. I know fur instance that most of the OCs on this site I will remember fur many years to come even if they stop being drawn and never become popular. And in my opinion the attention and praise that comes from a close circle of family, friends, or a small group such as this site is comparatively infinitely more valuable than the praise of the masses.
Again, drawing a totally arbitrary distinction between NSFW and SFW as hard corn fur Peruvian cryptids (WHICH ARTISTS LITERALLY CANNOT DRAW FULFILMENT FROM AS AN IMMUTABLE RULE OF NATURE... BECAUSE IT MAKES THEM MONEY AND ATTENTION) and as Personal, Individual, ONTAWLAWGICALLY SOHUMAN. The framing is all wrong.
Internet psychologising is zero-sum.
>>95837
I was talking mainly about depictions of sex (and extreme violence), not artistic nudity, but the foot soldiers of the anti-diddyblud coalition are retarded and don't see the difference anyway.
The people misconstruing artistic nudity as corn are not doing it only as an unconscious reaction to corn being everywhere (it's not.), they do it because they're stupid (90% of the time this is the case) or because they deliberately want to demarcate a piece/artist as being "NSFW" to attack it or to "claim" it.
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>>95845
>Regardless nudity in these pieces was to show the human furm
The chink cargo culters who make statues nowadays probably believe that the only point of nudity in historical marble statues was to show off craftsmanship. That would help to explain why all of their statues are retarded garbage.
>>95847
Amarna guy you are one of the only voices of reason on this furum
>>>95801
martha shoots
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>>95880
my fluffing dumbass replying to the wrong thing
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