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>>4244 (OP) 
democrats are the real transphobes btw

>>4244 (OP) 
Is genders a euphemism for penis?

guhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shits myself.

>>4244 (OP) 
They're inherently bad people to THEMSELVES... Some are incredibly nice to others most of the time though.

>>4244 (OP) 
As someone who has had multiple irl friends troon out, yes. Transgenderism makes people become disgusting and completely insufferable.

They aren't necessarily evil, though a disproportionate number of them certainly are.  However, but they ARE mentally ill, by definition.  They are frightened, confused, pitiable, vulnerable, miserable people who have internalized one of Current Year's popular social contagions, usually as a result of sexual abuse and/or gaslighting by woke authority figures at the schools they attend.  It makes me very sad to ponder them.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8839957/

The curious might want to look around and maybe even save a copy of that paper before it gets dropped down the Memory Hole.  For the impatient, though, the tl;dr is that it's a genunine, no-shit medical paper published in the US by the National Institutes of Health in 1996.  "Gender dysphoria," which was not nearly as trendy thirty years ago as it is now, is very effectively curable with an antipsychotic drug called pimozide.  "Gender dysphoria" is just another psychotic delusion amenable to treatment with psych meds.  Men who show up with a dress and five-o'-clock shadow say "I'm rilly rilly rilly totally a girl, and you have to call me 'ma'am'" are no different from the ones who claim to be Napoleon, or Jesus, or a tree.  They merit all the same responses from society.  This particular form of psychotic delusion is currently fashionable.  I very strongly suspect that, had these same individuals been born a hundred years ago, they would instead have been the Get-Ready Man from various James Thurber stories:  an unshaven, bug-eyed, filthy, emaciated man with ratty hair, standing on a streetcorner in Columbus, Ohio, wearing a sandwich board that said "REPENT YE SINNERS" with the R's and N's painted, charmingly, backwards, ringing a bell and screaming "THE WORLLLLLLLLLLLLLD IS COMING TO AN END! GET READY! GET READY! JESUS IS COMING SOON!" for hours on end every day at all passers-by, following some of them into their homes to harangue them.  What the Get-Ready man needed, and, quite possibly eventually got, in America in the 1920s, was a meeting with the cops and some muscular orderlies from the local loony bin, who would throw a net over him and drag him away for treatment so that he would no longer be a public nuisance.  So it should be with crazy people now.

>>4399
Clean Troon myth needs to die, they aren't victims of circumstance who got mixed in with the wrong crowd, you have to be stupid, ignorant, cowardly or (and*) weak to transition, to state otherwise would be a tacit acknowledgement of blank slate-ism and the concept of 'grooming'. Mental illness (negative value judgement) is obviously a motivating factor, but all of them without exception are still rational actors and willing participants in this.

>>4401
Even Chris-chan?  Chris-chan is fairly typical of trannies:  low-functioning autistic, mildly mentally retarded with genuine mental illness.  I don't know who told him he was rilly a girl, but I seriously doubt he came up with the idea on his own.  Just the sheer exploding numbers tell me that it's a social contagion.  It's a category of very fashionable mental illness that didn't even exist forty years ago and was a tiny rounding error fifteen years ago.  Now, suddenly, they're everywhere, on every college campus.  It is unnatural, and it is being sold very hard to the autistic in particular, who are told that it is their human right to demand permanent surgical castration.

I think these are genuinely crazy people.  I think that in the absence of the ongoing cultural full-court press with the troon propaganda, all of these people, without exception, would be arguing with telephone poles, or calling up the police department a hundred times a day about the invisible flying saucers that are following them around and zapping thoughts into their heads with mind control rays.

Have you ever noticed that periodically there are waves of mental illness, where the crazy people reflect the crazy off one another, purifying it and amplifying it like a laser that shoots beams of monochromatic polarized crazy?  And the craziness isn't random.  The individual grains of sand don't have intention but the avalanche always goes downhill.  There are observable trends, observable behavioral clusters.  Crazy people tend to be obsessed with concepts that splinter away from the weirder edges of whatever society is worried about, and there is a predictable pattern where crazy people latch onto big words they don't understand and apply them in ways that label the content of their delusions in ways that are only dimly recognizable.  Two hundred and fifty years ago crazy people in the UK were obsessed with magnetism and mesmerism and steam engines, and a surprising number of them decided that there existed conspiracies of evil men zapping evil crazy thoughts into their brains with steam-powered magnetic machines that mesmerized them into madness.  Fifty or sixty years ago it would have been all UFOs and aliens and mad scientists, all lifted straight from sci-fi B-movies at the drive-in theater and reruns of Captain Video on black-and-white analog TV.

I'm saying these people are bugfuck.  I'm saying that as a general rule they don't have agency in any real sense.  I don't hold them to be moral actors at all, any more than the guy who drives around town in a rusted-out 1974 Ford F-150 pickup truck that has a thousand Barbie Doll heads krazy-glued all over it, who turns out to have a brain tumor, does.  The worst possible thing we can do is appease these people and let them think that throwing tantrums gives them power over us.  The worst possible thing we can do is to encourage them.  They are a public nuisance and many, perhaps most, of them, enjoy every manner of unsavory sexual practice, often involving animals and children.  Public safety requires any government that wishes to maintain the slightest pretense of legitimacy to round them up.  Secondarily, and because of the danger they present to the public, it must be secondary, it is for their own good.  The modern era can probably do better than lobotomies and electroshock.  Probably.  Did I mention pimozide?

>>4408
Yes, even Chris Chan. He's obviously on the lower end of the rationality spectrum, but he can still be held accountable for believing it of his own volition, however much of it there is; stupidity is not a mitigating factor.
>Chris-chan is fairly typical of trannies
From what I've seen, I would bet that they are a little below the White average for IQ - an average which is brought up far higher by a minority of reasonably intelligent turncoats, but I don't think it's CWC level even disregarding those. Nor do I think the prevalence of neurological conditions is as high as it's believed to be, most trannies are sub-normalfags, not potential raving schizophrenic public transport niggers or Chris Chans; "genuine" "gender dysphoria" and AGP cases make up a vanishing minority now, most are gullible conformists with the vanguard now being ideological turncoats who betrayed themselves (slightly above average intell. heterosexual White men) to be allowed to have a presence and "own space" under Woke. It's closer to, as you said, mass hysteria and a social fad than to a spontaneous uprising of the latent mentally ill population. All of that is to say that mandatory Pimozide probably won't fix this overnight, or at least isn't necessary when Putting The Woke Away and making trannies confess that they're dumb and/or wanted to be an online moderator or thought leader on the public-facing internet would work all the same.

>>4409
Ah, but that's just it.  That's not how insanity works.  That's not how belief works.

I don't choose to believe that two and two make four.  I can't choose to believe that two and two make five, or that I am Napoleon.  Human beings do not choose to believe things.  There are some people who for whatever reason choose to engage in elaborate games of make-believe, of course, and some of them want the validation of total strangers in respect to whatever weird shit they've become fixated upon.  I think that isn't really belief.  Probably a significant fraction of troons fall into this category:  obnoxious belligerent assholes playing pretend because they've learned that it gives the power over people.  But, see, this group is also delusional.  They genuinely believe that hundreds of millions of total strangers are morally obligated to participate in their sick little games of let's-pretend.  They genuinely believe that they have legal and moral rights to this, that society owes it to them.  They're every bit as bugfuck as the people with Body Dysmorphic Disorder, who say "Doc, these legs aren't mine. I think they belong to your secretary. Could you saw my legs off above the knee, please?  They're not part of who I am.  I'm not a person with legs."  There is a pretty clear line, by the way, from BDD to "gender dysphoria," and you don't have to be Sigmund Freud to see it.

>>4244 (OP) 
trannies are cool but bottom surgeries are still nightmare fuel

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>>4558

They seethe about guys who aren't trannies a lot which is bad

>>4574
Being troon is suffering.